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My "not so natural" anabolic cutting stack....opinions/thoughts?

June 21, 2012, 5:04 am
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whats up this is going to be my cutting stack for the next 5 weeks.im currently sitting at about 13-15% bf and want it lower in the next 5 weeks.

Stats: 20 y/o,6ft,205lbs around 13-15bf% not sure.i had full abs before christmas using clenbuterol but at higher dosages (it melts fat lol)
about 4 weeks ago i started cutting/recomping with osta rx by ironmag labs.i gained a few pounds of muscle and actually lost a good bit of bodyfat.i have been refeeding (skiploading) every week with great results but since i finished the osta i actually gained a bit of fat. My diet is very clean at the moment with higher carbs on training days and low on off days. I train DC and stick to it like a bitch lol,beating the log book every week.Mind you,im only 20 y/o but decided to not be stupid and use ph's yet (i know a lot about them,and since osta rx is not suppressive im using it again for this cycle (did a cycle of 4 weeks,stopped for 2 weeks and now doing another 4 weeks HELL YEAH). I have used clenbuterol in the past with all precautions taken.

the stack: osta rx 3caps a day total of 20mg osta
erase : 1-3 caps a day
clenbuterol: im doing a 2on 2 off stretegy to stop any receptor downregulation etc.i also use yohimbine on when im not using clen on an empty stomach before liss cardio.taurine,benadryl and potassium will be used along with the clen. it will be dosed at 60-100mcg on this protocol.I dont like using clen on training days as it makes me shaky and my strenght is not the same,so i will try and work around it
other supps: whey,bcaa,creatine etc.

thoughts on this? my macros will be different for off days.

ill be on about 2300kcal on training days and 2100 on off days.i wont post macros for every day as they differ but protein is around the 210-230range and fats usually higher (90-110g) range on off days.cardio is liss 3-4 days a week and one HIIT a week (depending on which workout scedule im doing if i have to train legs twice that week.I will post pics up as soon as i can.

All opinions are welcome.lets kill it
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Low Testosterone Lab levels

June 21, 2012, 5:16 am
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Hi everybody.
I would very much appreciate if someone could check my hormone's levels below.
Just to introduce myself, I am a 32yrs old guy trying to get rid of anxiety and depression for the 5 past years.
During that period I looked for help from my Psychiatrist. We tried with few Anti-depressants/benzodiazepams but none of them relieved me of it.
Further more I was always in a bad mood due to low self-esteem, low energy, poor concentration, always sleepy, low libido and similar.
I was never a sports kind a guy since I was always shy and didn't like confrontations.
In the last 10 years I went to gym occasionally just to go against my office type of work.
Anyhow I am married with no children yet, 6,2 feet / 189 lbs pretty much thin with little fat on my gut.

One of my friends asked me did I checked my hormone levels before starting to take any medications. Off course i did not.
Since then I would like to see if my low Testosterone levels could have something to do with my anxiety/depression. Also more energy/concentration would be most welcome.
At that time I was taking Anti-depressant Velafax(venlafaxine) 37.5mg 1 in the morning + 1 in the evening.
So I went to a Endocrinologist and we did my first test as follows: (some items may be named wrongly due to translation)

03.10.2011 08:00AM
Chlorides - 102 (97-108) mmol/L
Calcium total - 2,52 (2,14-2,53) mmol/L
Inorganic phosphate - 1,37 (0,79-1,42) mmol/L

Albumin - 50 (41-51) g/L
Estradiol - 118,3 (28-156) pmol/L
LH - 5,87 (1,7-8,6) IU/L
FSH - 4,84 (1,5-12,4) IU/L
Prolactin - 113,6 (86-324) mIU/L
SHBG - 16,32 (10-80) nmol/L
Testosterone total - 13,63 (8,69-29,0) nmol/L
Testosterone Free - 2,31% (1,0%-2,7%)
Testosterone Bioavailable - 62,5%
Cortisol total - 531,3 (131-536) nmol/L
ACTH - 4,89 (1,6-13,9) pmol/L
FT4 - 11,43 (7,90-14,4) pmol/L
FT3 - 4,84 (3,8-6,0) pmol/L

Anti Tg - 13 (neg<100) U/ml
Anti TPO - 29 (neg<100) U/ml

04.10.2011 AM
TSH - 1,86 (0,3-3,6) mIU/L
FT3 - 4,1 (3,39-6,47) pmol/L
FT4 - 15,7 (10,3-22,8) pmol/L

Leukocytes - 6,8 (3,4-9,7)
Erythrocyte - 5,0 (4,34-5,72)
Hemoglobin - 158 (138-175)
Hematocrit - 0,45 (0,415-0,530)
MCV - 90 (83,0-97,2)
MCH - 31 (27,4-33,9)
MCHC - 345 (320-345)
RDW - 12,6 (9-15)
Trombocites - 182 (158-424)
Sedimentation - 6 (2-13)

Glucose - 4,1 (4,1-6,4)
Urea - 9,3 (2,3-8,3)
Creatinine - 95 (63-125)

AST - 29 (0-38)
ALT - 37 (0-48)
GGT - 22 (0-55)
ALP - 68 (30-120)

Na - 143 (135-150)
K - 4,3 (3,5-5,1)

Anyhow, upon physical examination, thyroid examination and checking the above levels he said I was OK and that I could only take maybe some Selenium supplements.
After that I decided to try some zinc in the evening and few herbs such as Tribulus, Tongkat Ali, Ginseng without any order, sometimes all together. I did feel some libido improvement at beginning as I recall but the anxiety/bad mood/poor concentration was still present.

This spring i hit the gym easily again.
Latter on i decided to go off my medication (Velafax) and after the resting weekend and without any supplements for days I redid my hormone levels:

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04.06.2012 07:30AM
Estradiol - 94,5 (28-156) pmol/L
LH - 10,06 (1,7-8,6) IU/L
FSH - 5,58 (1,5-12,4) IU/L
Prolactin - 165,8 (86-324) mIU/L
SHBG - 21,74 (10-80) nmol/L
Testosterone total - 8,55 (8,69-29,0) nmol/L
Testosterone Free - 2,26% (1,0%-2,7%)
Testosterone Bioavailable - 59,0%

Again another Endocrinologist said it was OK, that I do not need anything since I can grow a beard?! and something about bio-available Testosterone levels...

Anyhow I would be grateful if somebody could direct me toward what should I take care of, or what should I do? Are my hormone levels fair? Should I do something about it?

Thanks
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thoughts on cycle test e tren e deca

June 21, 2012, 5:27 am
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ive been training for about 5 years and have done 2 previous cycles recently badly burnt my body and broke a few bones.. haven trainiend for 3 months starting back up now going to train natural for a while..
then was thinking of doing a test e tren e and deca cycle

test e 700mg per week 1-12
deca 400mg per week 1-12
tren e 500 mg per week weeks 4-10

height 6"
weight 88kg
bf 10%
thanks for any help and input
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ZMA and ISA-TEST

June 21, 2012, 5:53 am
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Anyone recommend against taking both due to the higher amounts of zinc and magnesium?

If so what recommendations do you have? Ive been taking ZMA and Tribulus extract for awhile currently, notice a change for the better and also believe it is helping me recover faster and from long days working in general. would the ISA-TEST replace both of these?
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assault vs monster pump

June 21, 2012, 5:58 am
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Been taking assault now for a couple months. Ingredient profile isn't real specific though so I've been eyeing monster pump, anyone tried both? Thoughts?
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Having Gyno Surgery Today

June 21, 2012, 6:14 am
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I'll post before and after pics later if anyone is interested in seeing the results
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Anyone else besides me get CRAZY libido boost from Fenugreek?

June 21, 2012, 7:07 am
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I can't describe how effective this stuff is for me. However, I see some say it raises estrogen and others say it raises test. Can anyone chime in with personal experiences? I dont' even use the fenuside/testofen type just plain ol' fenugreek.
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Test deca run

June 21, 2012, 7:14 am
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Ok so I have run test e 600 for about 9 weeks decided to extend cycle from 3 to about 6 months during the middle which is right around the corner I want to run liquid deca I'm only getting a 10 ml bottle what would be the most effective dose/per time period to use I would like to gain another 10,15 pounds also currently running nolva .5 eod as my nips started to get puffy no hard spots or sensitivity also will run hcg at end of cycle
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Clenbuterol as anticatabolic

June 21, 2012, 7:27 am
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Hello, I just finished my cycle of Clenbuterol, I still have some tablet of 40mg and I take one every 36 hours .. I noticed that, even if not feel the thermogenic effect, but its anti catabolic and cortisol suppression effect still works great .. In fact, yesterday I took a massive dose of DMAA, and after the training I had no rebound of cortisol (which I had always had when I took the Jack3d) .. Unfortunately I have been only 2 tabs of clen, and I don't know what to replace it to maintain this anti-catabolic effect and the suppression of cortisol .. Can I buy back the clen and take it as I'm doing every 36 hours at a minimum dose? Or do you recommend other products?

Thanks
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Interview with Joe Binley (CEO of Anabolic Designs) at the recent BodyPowerExpo

June 21, 2012, 7:30 am
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Interview with Joe Binley (CEO of Anabolic Designs) at the recent BodyPowerExpo

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HELP. Warning. It's about S-E-X.

June 21, 2012, 7:36 am
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Sooooo....yeah, I'm over 30 and have always had a fairly healthy sex life. I've never had an issue with desire, libido, or "being ready" for my partner. And, from what I've heard, I've had more compliments than complaints in the bedroom (yes, every guy says that, I know). I've been with the same girl for going on two years now, and we have had a healthy sex life. For some reason, in the past 8 months to a year, I'm having trouble lasting longer than a few minutes, which is leaving her disappointed. She loves me and isn't going anywhere, but I can tell she's tired of giving me the "I take it as a compliment" line. I've never had this problem before, and it's happened regardless of my diet, supplements, workouts, stress levels, and any other factors I can name. Libido, size, drive and other things are not the problem either. Can anyone help? Has anyone seen this before? Googling has only brought me to sites I don't really want in my history, and I am not sure what "male enhancement" means exactly. I have heard of an "excersize" I can do, but it literally takes a good 45 minutes to an hour and a half of "private" time, daily. With kids, a restaurant job, working out, and just life in general, taking that kind of time to do that daily, isn't an option.
Help, please. My girlfriend would appreciate it, too.
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Fighting my genetics with T3!(myths destroyed)

June 21, 2012, 7:39 am
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I am now in a lean mass phase with a small t3 dose.25-30 mcgs as a nutrient partitioner.Most my my training has been done in a low carb/deficit state because of my love hate relationship with my genetics.Father is a rather large man and has been for most of his life.Mom is the same.Needless to say I lose alot of muscle staying lean or atleast trying to.Carbs are my enemy so to speak and excess calories seem to store quickly. So far my first dose today and I feel better after eating carbs than I used to,not tired at all.
Over the next 3 weeks I'll be playing around with this serious drug.Here are some myths/misconceptions about t3 I have found in my research.

T3 causes damage to your thyroid myth

It dose indeed cause your natural t3 production to stop but you do recover as long as you don't go overboard.25mcgs ED even over 3 months won't damage your thyroid permanently .Of course this is for the general population mind you.If you go above 150mcgs thats getting a little much.Although rebound weight gain is almost writen in stone.

T3 burns muscle!

This is true at high doses (above 50 mcgs) coupled with low calories.At lower doses this shouldn't be a problem as long as your eating enough OVER maint level.


T3 is a cutting drug and nothing more!

Not true,nutrient partitioning aspect is great!Can be used in bulk/lean mass for better breakdown of/partitioning fats,carbs and protein.

Heres info on the effects
Effects of T3

T3 increases the basal metabolic rate and, thus, increases the body's oxygen and energy consumption. The basal metabolic rate is the minimal caloric requirement needed to sustain life in a resting individual. T3 acts on the majority of tissues within the body, with a few exceptions including the spleen and testis. It increases the production of the Na+/K+ -ATPase and, in general, increases the turnover of different endogenous macromolecules by increasing their synthesis and degradation.

Protein
T3 stimulates the production of RNA Polymerase I and II and, therefore, increases the rate of protein synthesis. It also increases the rate of protein degradation, and, in excess, the rate of protein degradation exceeds the rate of protein synthesis. In such situations, the body may go into negative ion balance.

Glucose
T3 potentiates the effects of the β-adrenergic receptors on the metabolism of glucose. Therefore, it increases the rate of glycogen breakdown and glucose synthesis in gluconeogenesis.

Lipids
T3 stimulates the breakdown of cholesterol and increases the number of LDL receptors, thereby increasing the rate of lipolysis.

Heart
T3 increases the heart rate and force of contraction, thus increasing cardiac output, by increasing β-adrenergic receptor levels in myocardium. This results in increased systolic blood pressure and decreased diastolic blood pressure. The latter two effects act to produce the typical bounding pulse seen in hyperthyroidism.

Development
T3 has profound effect upon the developing embryo and infants. It affects the lungs and influences the postnatal growth of the central nervous system. It stimulates the production of myelin, the production of neurotransmitters, and the growth of axons. It is also important in the linear growth of bones.

Neurotransmitters
T3 may increase serotonin in the brain, in particular in the cerebral cortex, and down-regulate 5HT-2 receptors, based on studies in which T3 reversed learned helplessness in rats and physiological studies of the rat brain.


T3 has a short half life!

This may be started by doctors,bro science or w/e but the half life of Liothyronine or cytomel is 2.5 days.Confirmed by a local pharmacy and a doctor and the internet.No need to split dosage unless you feel hypo symptoms caused by the bigger doses(50-75 mcgs or higher)


T3 must be used with an anabolic so you don't waste away!

Again not for the lower doses but for the higher doses you MUST to retain even alittle muscle.At50 to 100 plus mcgs you will be burning muscle even with anabolics.This is a fact.


You must taper up and down!

God I wish this would die.After hundreds of post and everyone posting the same reason(perm thyroid damage) I found one that lead me to the conclusion this is a myth.Confirmed it aswell.Just like with clen,no need to tapper up or down but the sides can be a bit much if you don't.Also it's easier for your thyroid to recover if you come down slowly but you still can recover if you don't.This is one of those drugs where you need to acess how it reacts with your body.Start at 25 mcgs cause nobody wants to faint/throw it up by jumping right to 100mcgs.


I hope that cleared up some foggy info and thank you for reading.Sub for updates on my results.
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Sustanon 300 info

June 21, 2012, 7:42 am
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I just jumped on my first cycle of sus 300. im pinning EOD .5 ml . i have a 20 ml vial so im estimating a 11 week cycle. am i pinning enough? when do i feel a difference? i already pinned 5 times ( not expecting results right away, i am patient plus im nervous as my first cycle ever lol) im not looking to get huge, just look good, can care less about how much i lift just how many times i can lift it. i will start my PCT(hcg) 6 weeks in along with 50 ml tabs of British dragons winstrol. i will take half the pill in morn and other at night for 5 weeks. my diet is simple. dont eat garbage. eat 6 times a day small meals. 3 protein shakes. and run 3 miles EOD. please help with any info. i appreciate all advice. thank you.
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Gbye MP, hello BB! OKCGP 20wks out

June 21, 2012, 8:38 am
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After much prodding from friends and others I am going to be competing in my third show as a bodybuilder. I have come to realize that I am not the men's physique type. So now the prep begins. Here's the current plan:

OKC Grand Prix is November 3rd. I will bulk as leanly as possible until August, when I will begin my slow cut and prep to be stage ready midway through October. The main goal is to put back on as much leg mass as possible since I lost a good bit during my last prep.


Current stats:

5'5", 173 lbs, approximately 8-9% BF. The weight and BF% are an estimate, although, they should be pretty close. I will be checking my progress with a bodpod and plan to have my initial for this log done on Tuesday of next week. At that point in time I will solidify my diet since the system gives me a print out of my RMR and daily caloric needs based on energy expenditure.


Current Diet:

Nothing too crazy. Minimums of 240g protein, 350g carbs, 110g fat. I'm averaging about 4000 kcals per day. My portions are weighed on a food scale and tracked via MFP. Again, this will all be solidified and cleaned up a bit next week. Most of my protein comes from whole foods, but I typically get a protein shake, sometimes two, per day as well as some Dark Matter post workout.



Current Split:

Sunday - rest
Monday - Power Legs
Tuesday - Power Upper
Wednesday - Rest
Thursday - Volume Legs
Friday - Volume Upper Push
Saturday - Volume Upper Pull

Most of my workouts are typically quite varied. My power leg workouts though tend to stay relatively similar since I am fused from L4-S1 and have some wicked back problems. Areas I will be focusing on are hams, quads, abs, tris, and chest. I feel these are my weakest points (in that order).

Due to my job I tend to travel quite a bit. I will be on the road for 2-4 weeks at a time. This is the biggest challenge for me once cutting begins. Finding a gym isn't usually that difficult since I teach a military course and I can just go lift before or after I teach.

Feel free to post suggestions or ask questions. Here is the link to my last prep thread with pics of where I ended about two weeks ago.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/bodyb...pics-39-a.html
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Aromasin vs Nolvadex for libido issues

June 21, 2012, 8:38 am
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Howdy. so currently i'm on deca 300/week, EQ 400/week, and test E 500/week, and finished superdrol 30/day a week ago. i have PCT of clomid/nolva lined up, but im really not looking forward to the massive libido crash from nolva. my first cycle of superdrol in the winter i used nolva for PCT, and i had never seen libido crash like that, but then next cycle of testP/trenA at 350 ea/week with winnie 100/day i used clomid and nolva, and found my libido was slightly better, which is odd to me now lol.

so after this i found i get almost performance anxiety around this. GF is cool about he she knows whats up, but it sucks for me. to my question, how does aromasin fair against nolva in terms of libido issues? any suggestions on how to keep estro under control, LH/FSH and test getting kickstarted with as little libido loss as possible - i know its completely unavoidable, i just want to mitigate SOME.

if stats needed:
age: 21
diet: 325p 150f 150c
height: 5'10
weight: 220
BF%: 7.5
thanks.
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lmg/stano-200 stack a good idea?

June 21, 2012, 8:41 am
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Looking for some advice, I can't afford to go methylated for the rest of the year, too many weddings, but would like to get another cycle in.

Would lmg and stano-200 compliment each other well? Or not worth it and I should wait til I can stack the stano with halo?

Thanks in advance for any advice!
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Java Lather JUMBO SALE!

June 21, 2012, 8:59 am
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My Mr Kuala Lumpur 2012 Experience!

June 21, 2012, 9:11 am
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Hi guys, just wanna share my experience in a contest which I recently competed in, Mr Kuala Lumpur 2012. I was in the men's open welterweight category, where I was the youngest among 14 competitors. I was nervous at first, cause this is my first time in the opens (instead of juniors).

Anyway, I'm humbly and pleasantly surprised and thankful that I was able to finish 2nd, beating all the other competitors except one, who was 19 years my senior.

Here are some photos from the contest.



I'm the one in the middle.






Zyzz style, baby!




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Loving my new Stim and App suppressant

June 21, 2012, 9:19 am
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Stimerex-ES - Ephedra Diet Pill
Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals
Lipodrene's Big Brother


Be sure to get the -ES version

This stuff is off the hook potent BUT with zero "shakes"
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Balls Hurt and Still Small on Nolva

June 21, 2012, 10:24 am
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I took a 6 week cycle of HDROL and I'm currently finishing up week 2 of PCT. Which consists of Nolva 20mg ED and Erase. The problem is, my nuts haven't gotten any bigger, and shrunk a little bit from the cycle. On top of that, they kinda hurt; like a dull ache. This is nothing excruciating, but I'm just worried about my bean bag.

Other than that I feel great. Libido seems to be intact for the most part as well. If anyone has some insight on this I would love to hear it!
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